DutchLionFrans's video: Trial Geert Wilders 4 Free Speech on Netwerk TV - Lawyer Theo Hiddema s excellent commentary 2-2

Because his comments are very helpful for any such case anywhere in the world. That is why I made a transcript of the discussion and translated it in English. This is the 2nd half of it: Excuse the quality; I recorded it with my video-camera from my PC-monitor. Important is the sound. I only recorded the two parts of the broadcast with trial-lawyer Theo Hiddema. Reporter: I want to address for a moment the verdict of the European Court in Stassburg. This verdict shows that it dóes matter that you are a politician. And exactly the political immunity is what Bram Moscovitz (defense lawyer of Geert Wilders) wants to enlarge. Can this influence the trial? Hiddema: I don't know. I do not know what defense he has held. Look, the Court, that has decided that Wilders has to be prosecuted concernig inciting hatred and so on, has said that law enforcement, it's job, the job of the judges, is part of the foundation for the protection of the undisturbed continuation of the integration process. This is the reason why Wilders is being prosecuted. That is why this is a political trial. For the integration-process is not a neutral given. The Dutch Labor Party ... Reporter: But Moscovitz points to the fact that he should also be able to do his work outside Parliament. To make statements as he does inside Parliament. Hiddema: Yes, yes, within the Dutch context. And the Court says that he does not do that because he contributes to causing unrest. Well, note this: The only unrest connected to the phenomenon Wilders is that he is already being guarded for years, walking around with 6 guards, and nowhere in the streets do you see Wilders'brownshirts' chasing poor muslims that exhaustedly hang in the fences. They have nothing to fear. Only Wilders has to fear for his life. Reporter: But when there is a polarisation in society, a split, I think it is hard to prove that this is caused by Wilders. Hiddema: Well, this can easily be proven. It ís caused by Wilders. But how come? This is not because Wilders is inciting hatred. But because he makes hatred visible. Against hím. And against his followers. Reporter: But then this becomes the chicken and egg story. Hiddema: No, not at all. Wilders has already been labeled "The Evil. He is being compared with the Dutch National Socialist party (NSB - the Dutch Nazi-party). Swastika's and Hitlermoustaches are taken out of the mothballs. He is more the victim of agression and unrest that that it can be said of him that his followers are making muslims walk around in fear. Reporter: But that is not the defense in a trial. Hiddema: It certainly ís! The Court that said: 'You must be prosecuted,' has said that his expressions can contribute to unrest. Well, the only unrest that we see in the Netherlands is for Wilders needing protection. But apart from that, nobody has anything to fear." For the complete broadcast go to: http://netwerk.tv/uitzending/2010-01-20/proces-wilders-vrijheid-van-meningsuiting-ter-discussie.